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JessBee
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:26:10 PM

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I am currently in the eleventh grade, and we're in the middle of grade twelve course planning right now. Because of that, I'm trying really hard to choose the right courses to give me the most options in where I can go. However, I was informed recently that UVIC requires at least four provincially examinable courses in your Top Five average. This TERRIFIES me, because I have 90s in everything but math, which I have a 50 in.

Would McGill, McMaster, or any other upper tier university take me with three provincially examinable courses as opposed to four (this is onyl for an Arts degree)?
scarboro
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Math is needed for almost 80% of all university programs...
Just pay attention more and ask your teacher/classmates for help because for me and most other people,
math is a markbooster (high 90s).

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JessBee
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:33:53 PM

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scarboro wrote:
Math is needed for almost 80% of all university programs...
Just pay attention more and ask your teacher/classmates for help because for me and most other people,
math is a markbooster (high 90s).


It's really not that I don't pay attention though, I work really hard, I've had six tutors in two years, and I spend hours getting extra help. I just cannot do math, and I don't need it to be an English major. I just need to know if there's anywhere that isn't looking for FOUR prov. exam courses.
scarboro
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:36:33 PM
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JessBee wrote:
scarboro wrote:
Math is needed for almost 80% of all university programs...
Just pay attention more and ask your teacher/classmates for help because for me and most other people,
math is a markbooster (high 90s).


It's really not that I don't pay attention though, I work really hard, I've had six tutors in two years, and I spend hours getting extra help. I just cannot do math, and I don't need it to be an English major. I just need to know if there's anywhere that isn't looking for FOUR prov. exam courses.

Sadly that statement can't be reciprocated.
Every program requires english even though I'm sure in most courses you'll never end up writing an essay.
You could write to the universities for some clarification but why not just take another course that is examed?

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Kaylya
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:37:43 PM

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I can't answer your question, but why does Math have to be one of the 4?

JessBee
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:38:28 PM

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scarboro wrote:
JessBee wrote:
scarboro wrote:
Math is needed for almost 80% of all university programs...
Just pay attention more and ask your teacher/classmates for help because for me and most other people,
math is a markbooster (high 90s).


It's really not that I don't pay attention though, I work really hard, I've had six tutors in two years, and I spend hours getting extra help. I just cannot do math, and I don't need it to be an English major. I just need to know if there's anywhere that isn't looking for FOUR prov. exam courses.

Sadly that statement can't be reciprocated.
Every program requires english even though I'm sure in most courses you'll never end up writing an essay.
You could write to the universities for some clarification but why not just take another course that is examed?


I'm in AP English (Full Year), AP Social (Full Year), AP French (Full Year) and AP Biology (Full Year). I literally have no room to mess around with Physics at this point. So I really don't know what to do.
JessBee
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:39:14 PM

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Kaylya wrote:
I can't answer your question, but why does Math have to be one of the 4?


I'm in AP Humanities and I have been since 10, so I only have one science. I'm only taking four.
scarboro
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:41:23 PM
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If your math mark is 50, DO NOT TAKE PHYSICS.
My class average is 57 atm and half the kids getting below 65 have 80s-90s in math.
Physics is basically everything you do in math, except you actually have to think.

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JessBee
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:43:12 PM

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scarboro wrote:
If your math mark is 50, DO NOT TAKE PHYSICS.
My class average is 57 atm and half the kids getting below 65 have 80s-90s in math.
Physics is basically everything you do in math, except you actually have to think.


That's the odd thing though, I got a 90 in Physics 20 when I did it online. I don't have any problems with those applications of numbers. Is Physics 30 brutal though?

What do you suggest I do then? Because I don't want to drop from Pure Math to Applied, but I don't want a near failing mark in my average.
scarboro
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:46:50 PM
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JessBee wrote:
scarboro wrote:
If your math mark is 50, DO NOT TAKE PHYSICS.
My class average is 57 atm and half the kids getting below 65 have 80s-90s in math.
Physics is basically everything you do in math, except you actually have to think.


That's the odd thing though, I got a 90 in Physics 20 when I did it online. I don't have any problems with those applications of numbers. Is Physics 30 brutal though?

What do you suggest I do then? Because I don't want to drop from Pure Math to Applied, but I don't want a near failing mark in my average.

Wow,
you're a pretty rare case but I guess just take Physics 30. The difference from grade 11-12 isnt much in terms of mathematics principles unless vectors are a bit hard for you. If you did well in grade 11 physics then youll succeed in grade 12 physics although here in Ontario its IMPOSSIBLE.
Highest mark last year in my school in physics= 84.


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aestas
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:49:54 PM

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In Ontario at least, I found there to be a larger gap in terms of difficulty between gr11 and gr12. I dropped nearly 10% from my final mark in gr11 to my final mark in gr12.
TaintedKane
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:51:55 PM

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scarboro wrote:
If your math mark is 50, DO NOT TAKE PHYSICS.


Reminds me of one of my friends I made in 11 math he had to take it even though he was in 12 cause he failed it but he was getting 90s in physics

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JessBee
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:52:12 PM

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scarboro wrote:
JessBee wrote:
scarboro wrote:
If your math mark is 50, DO NOT TAKE PHYSICS.
My class average is 57 atm and half the kids getting below 65 have 80s-90s in math.
Physics is basically everything you do in math, except you actually have to think.


That's the odd thing though, I got a 90 in Physics 20 when I did it online. I don't have any problems with those applications of numbers. Is Physics 30 brutal though?

What do you suggest I do then? Because I don't want to drop from Pure Math to Applied, but I don't want a near failing mark in my average.

Wow,
you're a pretty rare case but I guess just take Physics 30. The difference from grade 11-12 isnt much in terms of mathematics principles unless vectors are a bit hard for you. If you did well in grade 11 physics then youll succeed in grade 12 physics although here in Ontario its IMPOSSIBLE.
Highest mark last year in my school in physics= 84.


I guess I'll have to take Physics 30 online then. That's going to be a drag. Thanks though!
aibrean
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:54:46 PM

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Mac for sure won't count your math. If you're going into humanities or social sciences, they won't count it as the top marks they look at big grin

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JessBee
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:00:30 PM

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aibrean wrote:
Mac for sure won't count your math. If you're going into humanities or social sciences, they won't count it as the top marks they look at big grin


Thank god! You are a life saver! Would you happen to know whether or not McGill does? I searched their maze of a website, and emailed them, but I'm impatient.
aibrean
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:14:21 PM

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JessBee wrote:
aibrean wrote:
Mac for sure won't count your math. If you're going into humanities or social sciences, they won't count it as the top marks they look at big grin


Thank god! You are a life saver! Would you happen to know whether or not McGill does? I searched their maze of a website, and emailed them, but I'm impatient.


They accepted me and I didn't even take grade 12 math big grin As long as you're not hoping to go into the economics field of social sciences you will need minimal math in arts.

Perhaps a stats course in 2nd/3rd year but they're always easy and very gentle since we're artsies big grin

EDIT: What field are you hoping to major in btw?

1 We are from Mac! 2 A little bit louder! 3 I still can't hear you! 4 more more more...

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JessBee
Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:19:50 PM

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aibrean wrote:
JessBee wrote:
aibrean wrote:
Mac for sure won't count your math. If you're going into humanities or social sciences, they won't count it as the top marks they look at big grin


Thank god! You are a life saver! Would you happen to know whether or not McGill does? I searched their maze of a website, and emailed them, but I'm impatient.


They accepted me and I didn't even take grade 12 math big grin As long as you're not hoping to go into the economics field of social sciences you will need minimal math in arts.

Perhaps a stats course in 2nd/3rd year but they're always easy and very gentle since we're artsies big grin

EDIT: What field are you hoping to major in btw?


I am now officially in love with you, I will have to put you in my pocket and bring you to my next guidance appointment, haha!

I'm really VERY interested in Philosophy and Psychology (and I've gotten 100 in both highschool intro courses), but because I'm using my BA as Pre-Law I might to a Joint Honors Major between one of those two, with my major concentration in English.
Anonymous
Posted: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:32:55 PM
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scarboro wrote:
JessBee wrote:
scarboro wrote:
If your math mark is 50, DO NOT TAKE PHYSICS.
My class average is 57 atm and half the kids getting below 65 have 80s-90s in math.
Physics is basically everything you do in math, except you actually have to think.


That's the odd thing though, I got a 90 in Physics 20 when I did it online. I don't have any problems with those applications of numbers. Is Physics 30 brutal though?

What do you suggest I do then? Because I don't want to drop from Pure Math to Applied, but I don't want a near failing mark in my average.

Wow,
you're a pretty rare case but I guess just take Physics 30. The difference from grade 11-12 isnt much in terms of mathematics principles unless vectors are a bit hard for you. If you did well in grade 11 physics then youll succeed in grade 12 physics although here in Ontario its IMPOSSIBLE.
Highest mark last year in my school in physics= 84.

Yeah man I feel ya. Last year the highest mark in my school was 81. We're learning everything ourselves (our teacher actually writes board notes only once every 2 weeks and his tests are out of such low marks i.e. 1 mark equals around 3%-6%. It's ridikuluz!


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