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I recently did a project in my Law 12 class about gun laws in Canada. In my research, I found that many opposing groups/individuals have certain views that don't make much sense. "Guns don't kill people, people do," is what some say. Tell me what you think!
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I think that guns should be made illegal in canada
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people are crazy so they do not hesistate to kill
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I definitely believe guns should be illegal in Canada. Yes it takes a person to pick up a gun and pull the trigger, but guns themselves should not be floating around on the streets allowing just anyone to pick it up.
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Yeah guns kill people but who is pulling the trigger(PEOPLE) there should should be tougher laws for guns or tougher consequences.
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I heard about this guy who got 5 head shots in a row last year. Too much video games I guess.
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alexarea wrote:I recently did a project in my Law 12 class about gun laws in Canada. In my research, I found that many opposing groups/individuals have certain views that don't make much sense. "Guns don't kill people, people do," is what some say. Tell me what you think! lol i wonder if any other Eddie Izzard fans on this forum snickered at that last line
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I definitely think that changes should be made about guns in Canada. I think that Stephen Harper's "Tackling Violent Crime Act" is the perfect way of doing it. Having a minimum jail sentence for people that use a gun will make people think twice about pulling their gun out. Hopefully this will be one step towards banning them all together.
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n016 wrote:I definitely think that changes should be made about guns in Canada. I think that Stephen Harper's "Tackling Violent Crime Act" is the perfect way of doing it. Having a minimum jail sentence for people that use a gun will make people think twice about pulling their gun out. Hopefully this will be one step towards banning them all together. Minimum sentences are a joke. Let the judges decide punishments, not politicians.
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I heard that in the United States they are trying to make it legal for people to have guns on them while drinking in bars. My dad said this is a good way to kill Americans let them get drunk and shoot themselves. Hes pretty funny I think but it shows how America loves their second amendment even though its more about having a militia then having random people with guns
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Well if you are asking me for my honest opinion... I don't see why good, law abiding citizens shouldn't be allowed to carry guns legally. I have a friend who feels very stongly about the subject and she could probably argue this better than I can but the way I see it if guns were completely banned in Canada there would still be people who have them and those people would not be law abiding citizens. We would be stripping ourselves of the limited right we have to protect ourselves. I would also like to address the person who blamed violence on video games, please watch "Bowling for Columbine" and enlighten yourself. The film points out that Japan has created some of the most violent video games out there and I do believe the film says something to the effect that there's an average of seven gun related deaths in Japan every year... I can't remember if that's the exact statistic but I do know that video games should not be blamed for violence. I do support the idea that people kill and not guns. Guns are tools people use to kill but if people were not given access to them they would find another way. If a person wants to kill someone their weapon can be a plastic fork and they'll still get the job done. Should we hand out guns at the super market? No. Should we let people who are trained to responsibly carry a firearm carry one.. Why not?
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well actually, japan has a very steadily increasing youth crime rate, especially with murders (not like gang-related, but more like first or second degree family/relationship violent crimes), and they've got plenty of pedophiles to make up for that...
And I totally agree with gun control, as I hate guns. I really do. They are for cowards, and I have friends in street gangs, and they've told me how much harder it is to stab a guy than it is to just shoot him, and they always try to justify w/e by saying that whoever got shot "had it coming" cuz of how they didn't pay up or screwed someone over, which is idiotic. No one deserves to die to be an example, it's a fine way to regress into a terror state, especially with 13-17 year olds. And you know what? Guns just make it easier to kill for both sides, and i hate the attitudes that it creates/creates more gun use. Yes, our society is americanizing in our love of drama/violence over the past several years, but we still haven't surpassed our 1970s peak of homicide rates.
Anyways, society doesn't change unless the people change it. Yeah, there are idiots who kill, but you are 5000000% more likely to die in a car accident, or from the fatty fast foods that we consume. And with this attitude of self-defense, the more we arm, the more guns we have in circulation, and the more chances there are for accidents. It's the same with nuclear proliferation; they're both good for the owner, but suck for the neighbours. I agree that people will always have access to guns on street markets or w/e, but it's gonna be hell of a lot more expensive if they're less available, and have to be shipped/stolen from much further places. Ever seen that Chris Rock standup gig with the $5000 bullets? well I totally agree with that too, it's a great form of gun control. Why not tax bullets and arms 10000 % like we do with alcohol/tobacco too? it's much more likely to cause injuries (which OHIP or gov't healthcare will have to pay for) than the other 2 anyways.
Lastly, Small arms are responsible for 90% of civillian deaths worldwide, and there's a reason for that.
"My parents live in Ohio; I live in the moment." -himym.
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I believe guns should be illegal in Canada. Yes, people kill people but what about all the accidents that result from people owning guns? There have been so many children killed because of freak accidents in which they find the gun and pull the trigger. And if guns were made illegal there would definately be a decrease in these preventable deaths.
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whoaunit wrote:I believe guns should be illegal in Canada. Yes, people kill people but what about all the accidents that result from people owning guns? There have been so many children killed because of freak accidents in which they find the gun and pull the trigger. And if guns were made illegal there would definately be a decrease in these preventable deaths. How many people have actually died from that situation? Probably not even 100 in the past 10 years. So basically you're saying hunting should be illegal, along with sport shooting. Canada already has very strong gun laws.
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I don't see anything wrong with people wanting guns for sport, hunting, etc. I do think, however, there should be stronger punishment for those who are using them for a wrong purpose. You don't need an MP5 to hunt small game. Honestly, I'm not really sure how or what should be changed.
However, I think Canada's laws on self-defence and protection are too weak. I think that if someone breaks into my home, I should have the right to do whatever to protect myself, even if it means killing them.
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Shismo wrote:I don't see anything wrong with people wanting guns for sport, hunting, etc. I do think, however, there should be stronger punishment for those who are using them for a wrong purpose. You don't need an MP5 to hunt small game. Honestly, I'm not really sure how or what should be changed.
However, I think Canada's laws on self-defence and protection are too weak. I think that if someone breaks into my home, I should have the right to do whatever to protect myself, even if it means killing them. You aren't allowed to own an MP5 in Canada...
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